mohamed morsi. >> yes,. >> rose: he was on the cover of the magazine? >> yes. >> rose: that probably gave it away -- >> for followers at home like yourself. that image was by the same photographer who did barack obama. >> rose: so here is -- there it is. tell me about that. what what are you trying to say there? >> so the photographer is a wonderful, wonderful photographer and we try -- i wanted to have a picture of obama that didn't look like familiar pictures of obama. he may be the most photographed man in the world. i also wanted something that conveyed the mood of the time. and particularly in the post-newtown period we're in now. that grisly and horrible massacre. the mood of the country has changed and he stepped up in a way that we really haven't seen and so i wanted the picture to be both familiar and unfamiliar both timeless and timely it's somber. it's meditative. it's deliberate. i think it's a really iconic picture. >> rose: you also have a profile in there of him and talking about this election which he says is more important than perhaps